The first time I read it, it led me out of the faith. Who knows? Maybe this time, it will lead me back in.
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Showing posts with label stoning. Show all posts
Tuesday, August 24, 2010
Joshua Ch. 7: Entire Family Executed Because Dad Looted Jericho - After taking Jericho, Yahweh gets pissed off. Achan, son of Zerah, apparently did a little looting after Jericho. Shortly thereafter, Israelites lose a battle against the men of Ai.
So, Joshua gets paranoid and asks Yahweh, "What's the big deal?" Yahweh says that Achan, son of Zerah, took "the accursed thing" and that he should be killed. Joshua investigates the matter and questions Achan; who confesses. He apparently stole some clothing and some money.
For this crime, Joshua rounds Achan, his sons and daughters, his livestock, and the loot together. When they were all huddled together, the Israelites threw large stones at them, effectively killing them all because old Achan decided to partake of the spoils of war.
So, what do you think? Do you think Achan and his entire family deserved to die because of his actions?
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Thursday, April 01, 2010
Here are some more rules as laid out in Deuteronomy, Chapter 22. Notice how they get more morbid as they progress.
- Look out for your brother's animals and keep them harm.
- Transvestites are an abomination.
- If you come across a birds nest, you can take the eggs and the chicks, but not the mother.
- When you build a house, make sure the roof is strong.
- Don't wear garments of mixed fabrics (i.e. cotton and linen).
- Don't plow with an ox and a donkey together.
- You should put fringes on your clothes.
- If your wife isn't a virgin on her wedding day, take her to her father's doorstep and kill her.
- Adulterers should be executed.
- If a woman is raped in the city, and doesn't cry for help loud enough, she should be executed.
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Wednesday, March 24, 2010

Deuteronomy's Chapters 19 through 21 deal with what sort of killing is okay in the eyes of Yahweh.
Dealing with the Difference Between Murder and ManSlaughter
Chapter 19 is a sort of amendment to the Sixth Commandment: Thou shalt not murder.
First, anyone that kills his neighbor should be executed. Specifically, he ought to be killed by the victim's closest relative, whom the ancient Hebrews called 'the avenger of the blood'.
If he accidentally kills someone, then the accidental killer must flee to another city. But, if he returns to the city where the victim lived, then the 'avenger of the blood' may kill the guy.
However, before determining this there should also be three witnesses.
Killing in the Context of War
Deuteronomy, Chapter 20, if I can sum it up, says that first of all the Hebrews should not be afraid in battle because Yahweh has their back.
The chapter makes a distinction between two types of foes: distant enemies that are too far to be conquered, and nearby enemies that can be incorporated into the Israelite nation. Upon defeating distant opponents, Israelites should slay all the males but take for themselves all the cattle, children, and women for themselves.
But closeby cities, which Yahweh has essentially given to the Israelites, are to be utterly destroyed. Yahweh instructs the Israelites to kill all the lame, sickly, and elderly people; but to take young women and children.
In fact, as Chapter 21 explicitly says, if you find a beautiful woman among the captives, take her into your house, shave her head, let her mourn her dead parents, and then "go in unto her".
An ancient Israelite can even have two wives: "one loved, and one hated."
When Punishment Deserves Death
Chapter 21 even talks about what sort of infractions deserve death.
In particular, any child who is disobedient, and I mean thoroughly disobedient, then he should be taken to outskirts of the village and stoned to death by the villagers.
And if the punishment is hanging, the advice given by the author of Deuteronomy is that the person should be taken down before the end of the day. Apparently, the criminal who was hung is so vile that if he remained on the tree for more than one day, his vileness would contaminate the land.
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Monday, October 19, 2009
"And they stoned him with stones until he was dead, as Yahweh had ordered them." - Numbers 15:36
Imagine you're out gathering firewood for the family on a Sunday morning, and then your neighbors see you, apprehend you, and then bring you to your church pastor, who sentences you to death. Would that suck?
Well, that's how people rolled back then, and they were only following the 4th Commandment: "Keep the Sabbath holy."
Back then, the Israelites had their Sabbath on Saturdays (Jews still do), but it's the same concept - one mandatory day off. Have you noticed that no one follows this anymore? Plenty of people work on Sundays - lawn maintenance, shopping, working, auto care, gardening, etc. If the 10 Commandments were still in effect, there's be a lot of killin'. Christians say it's because Jesus nullified the Old Testament law. Then why the big fuss about the 10 Commandments?
Well, Jesus didn't. In fact, he said that not one jot or scribble of the law shall pass until he returns. Is it moral to follow the 4th Commandment?
There's two responses that usually arise when questioning the 10 Commandments. First, "It was okay in that time and that cultural context," and "Come on, Andy. A guy getting executed for picking up sticks is a little bit extreme."
Well, Numbers Chapter 15, Verses 32 through 36 has an interesting story about a young man who was picking up sticks one fine Sabbath day.
They "caught" him, which kind of sounds like the guy even took off and ran, and then brought him before Moses, Aaron, and the rest of the community. They put him into custody, while Moses talked with the Almighty (Yahweh), asking Him what to do with the evil stick-gatherer.
Yahweh Himself says, "The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp."
And so they took the guy outside the camp, and the entire community threw stones at him until he died.
Again, I ask: Is it moral to follow the 4th Commandment?
Imagine you're out gathering firewood for the family on a Sunday morning, and then your neighbors see you, apprehend you, and then bring you to your church pastor, who sentences you to death. Would that suck?
Well, that's how people rolled back then, and they were only following the 4th Commandment: "Keep the Sabbath holy."
Back then, the Israelites had their Sabbath on Saturdays (Jews still do), but it's the same concept - one mandatory day off. Have you noticed that no one follows this anymore? Plenty of people work on Sundays - lawn maintenance, shopping, working, auto care, gardening, etc. If the 10 Commandments were still in effect, there's be a lot of killin'. Christians say it's because Jesus nullified the Old Testament law. Then why the big fuss about the 10 Commandments?
Well, Jesus didn't. In fact, he said that not one jot or scribble of the law shall pass until he returns. Is it moral to follow the 4th Commandment?
There's two responses that usually arise when questioning the 10 Commandments. First, "It was okay in that time and that cultural context," and "Come on, Andy. A guy getting executed for picking up sticks is a little bit extreme."
Well, Numbers Chapter 15, Verses 32 through 36 has an interesting story about a young man who was picking up sticks one fine Sabbath day.
They "caught" him, which kind of sounds like the guy even took off and ran, and then brought him before Moses, Aaron, and the rest of the community. They put him into custody, while Moses talked with the Almighty (Yahweh), asking Him what to do with the evil stick-gatherer.
Yahweh Himself says, "The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp."
And so they took the guy outside the camp, and the entire community threw stones at him until he died.
Again, I ask: Is it moral to follow the 4th Commandment?
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Tuesday, September 22, 2009

I'm just going to plow through 22 and 23. They cover subjects already discussed, with a few minor alterations. Basically, if you're a slave-owner, a priest, a priest's daughter or slave, and you're routinely sacrificing TONS of animals - you have nothing to worry about. If you're a leper, a guy with a "running issue", or had a wet dream - uh oh.
Chapter 24 is a slight change of pace. There's actually a descriptive story about a stoning. Some lady's half-Egyptian son gets into a fight with an Israelite and curses the Israelite's god. He probably said something like, "F*&% yo God, my God's waaaaay better."
God says, "You know what? This guy got me pissed off, and I order the entire community throw a bunch of heavy stones at him until he's a pile of mush and bone."
Maybe He didn't say it like that, but He basically told Moses, and Moses told the Israelites. Yahweh really does sound like a Roman god or goddess - quick to anger, jealous, and very moody.
A famous quote also comes out of Chapter 24: Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. The chapter suddenly jumps subject to justice. Isn't that ironic? They're talking about equal punishment here, RIGHT AFTER they killed a guy who said a few choice words against their schizophrenic invisible friend.
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